The myth of HeliosTitan god of the Sun, can tell us a great deal about the nature of the 5th house experience. Helios had a reputation in Ancient Greece as the source of all knowledge but not necessarily all wisdom since in his role as driver of the solar chariot, he saw everything going on beneath him.
Whether you are male or female, the Sun brings its masculine influence to the chart, and indicates how you experienced your father, how bits and pieces of his genetic heritage shine through in your life as you undergo the process of individuating. Positive expressions of creativity and creation will be seen in the individual chart by looking at the condition of the Sun and the sign and its influencing planet on the cusp of the 5th house. Look to see how their planets fall in your 5th acts of creation, i.
Eros was the primordial god protogenos of procreation who emerged self-formed at the dawn of creation. Therefore, we can apply the principles of Eros as creator and source of love universal love being a primordial, pre-existing energy that keeps us alive to your 5th house. Romance is constructed around emotions. The 5th house is not about emotions, per se, although it can be with some signs on its cusp.
What you do with your idea of creation from that point is the question. In fact, one might say that the essence of romance itself is to create a relationship, based on some kind of desire to be together, between strangers. Are these strangers compatible?
They might simply have an appreciation of music in common. That means that some of these composite Sun relationships take time to develop. And then there are 5th house composite Suns, which tend to be in your face about their existence. The two met at a party, a bar, with friends, because of friends, etc. You show me a 5th house composite of two people who met in a hospital, and I will give you respect.
Very simply, creation is not a governable force; Eros on its own is not governable. People who behave like forces of nature are not renowned for making others comfortable. Egos run very high here, and therefore the 5th house composite Sun is not guaranteed to survive very long.
Other influences in the charts will have to be developed. Maturity is the real issue in this house, and if the two get together too young, they will either stay together and help each other learn how to mature, or they will be broken apart by all the excess energy that surrounds the 5th house. The natal charts will tell you how well each person navigates the more challenging issues of this house, which will usually revolve around ego issues, particularly as they relate to individuality and acts of creation.
Progeny are not guaranteed here, although of course most people seem to expect to have children at some point in their lives. Marriage is also not what this house is about. Understand, therefore, that romance does not equal compatibility, and you need compatibility for the marriage to survive as well as resilience, maturity, and fortitude.
To fully understand the nature of the 5th house, and what it means to have Sun in composite there, one must analyze what one thinks and believes about the act of creation and creativity itself. There are a lot of myths about creativity, but the reality is that creativity requires—in fact, demands—a kind of intellectual restlessness that forces creative people to poke and prod and disturb the status quo.
For those looking for high romance from the 5th house, keep in mind that you bring your problems and personality disorders with you to your love relationships. Click on the links above to view their individual charts. All of this in a chart heavily balanced toward awareness of others see all those planets on the Western side of the chart? This implies that reality intervenes and politics rears its ugly head and their dream of creating a new paradigm meets with resistance.
Harry chafes at the rules he inherited at birth, with Gemini on his 5th house cusp and Uranus conjunct Mars in Sagittarius in his 11th—no wonder he chose as his bride a woman so very different than the norms he was raised within. Unconsciously, is she a weapon for him to get revenge? Meghan Markle brings a somewhat similar ideology of rattling the cages to the relationship, since Scorpio is on the cusp of her 5th house and of course, Uranus indicates that her expectations of love affairs is that they are unpredictable, or perhaps that love hits with the power of a thunderbolt.
We have to give them the test of time. If I could go back in my time machine and change one thing, it would be that Adolf Hitler would be accepted into the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna, which rejected him both in and To someone with Pisces on the cusp of his 5th with aspirations to a career in the fine arts, this must have been a devastating blow.
Pisces on a cusp of a house tells you where you not only have a sensitivity for the issues of the house, but also feel extraordinarily sensitive about the issues of the house.When two individuals come together in a relationship they create a third astrological chart that shows the soul or nature of their relationship.
This is known as the Composite or Combined Chart. This is the nature of the Composite Chart, in that it shows how the combination of two individuals can create a relationship greater than the two as separate people.
Astrologically, a combined chart is calculated by taking a midpoint between two horoscopes to generate a new chart. This single chart is then referred to as the Composite or Combined chart and is completely different in nature to the individuals birth charts. About Your Reports. Are displayed directly in your browser. Reports are available immediately online.
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Over the years I've been asked by countless people how to know if they're compatible with someone, as well as those wanting to know if the time and day they want to get married is important. This article explains synastry, the composite chart, and the importance of the marriage chart, as well as other factors.
There are several ways to find out how compatible we are with another, and where our points of harmony and friction occur. There is another crucial chart to have calculated before we marry, and that's the Marriage chart, done for the time of initiating the marriage ceremony.
This begins the adventure, and gives new momentum and energy to a relationship. The Marriage chart is very important, like the timing on launching a business, starting a project, or when we buy or sell something. A crucial component of success in relationships, along with resources, tools, and skills, is the best time for beginning a partnership, project, or new initiative.
The branch of astrology dealing with launching things is Electional or Inceptional Astrology, and is an art in itself. Each moment has its special qualities and challenges, and it's always good to launch our boats on a favorable tide. That said, it is equally important to remember that it is impossible to counteract "real world" conditions. For instance, you can plant potatoes on the best day of the month astrologically, but will probably not get many potatoes if you've planted in November rather than April in Northern climes.
By the same token, you may get a great deal on a house, but if the house has plumbing problems, you'll still have to deal with them. And yes, plumbing or electrical, or foundation problems can be seen in the chart of when you first look at a house, as well as when you close escrow.
A compatibility chart done using Synastry, tells a lot about whether two people are suited to each other. This is where we look at how person A's planets fall in person B's houses, and vise-versa, along with the aspects between all the rulers of houses.
It reveals many intricacies between people, and where common ground can be found, if it can be found at all. We're usually attracted to various planet energies for all kinds of reasons, some of which change over time.
That's why we fall into harmony and disharmony for whatever reasons. While compatibility analysis is extremely important and revealing of points of harmony and conflict, there are other important charts that give valuable information about two people's compatibility. One is a chart done for the time when two people first meet.
Another is the composite chart. The composite chart is derived from the midpoints of the similar planets between two charts, i. The marriage chart is actually an Inceptional chart, in that a marriage is the inception of the contract of partnership. Thus it shows the past, present, and future of the individuals, as well as the composite unit. That's why it's important to find a time that is very compatible with the charts of both, and is compatible within itself.Thanks for the good examples.
I wrote a program called StarLove which shows a person's progressions involving Venus, you can find it by Googling starlove synastry. Post a Comment. Friday, January 7, Love and Venus in the progressed chart. When love is in the air, love is in the sky above. Venus is the symbol of love.
And love has many faces. So it is not surprising to see all kinds of aspects with progressed Venus or progressed aspects with natal or progressed Venus when there are changes in love life, wether it is the beginning or the end of a relationship. That is why there are not just pleasant progressions and transits, like Venus-Jupiter, the combination for a party. Venus-Saturn combinations and Venus-MC resonate the formal wedding. Venus-Uranus adds tension and sensation and sometimes this means that you are in love.
Venus-Saturn and Venus-Moon. Her parents didn't attend the controversial wedding and much later she divorced. In the year of her marriage with Diego de Rivera an artist Frida Kahlo had the very fortunate progression of Moon trine Jupiter. The progressed Moon also was trine progressed Venus. She must have been very much in love with Diego. The second time she married him P Moon was conjunct P Venus.
S un-Venus. She never married another man. Venus-Uranus and Venus-MC.The Progressed Composite Chart- What It Is
Prince Charles married Diana when his progressed Venus was conjunct natal Uranus and progressed Midheaven inconjunct natal Venus. The wedding date of Princess Victoria might have been selected by an astrologer:.
In the progressed chart for June 19, the Progressed Ascendant will be square progressed Venus. That is a classical reflection of getting married. Progressed synastry. His progressed Venus was opposition her progressed MC and her progressed Venus was close to his progressed Sun in those days.
Her progressed Venus was inconjunct his Mars. His progressed Mars was trine his progressed Sun and Saturn and his progressed Venus was square her progressed Sun. A rather complicated picture, but it shows controlled passion and a period of strong love. Midheaven conjunct Venus. The first marriage of Frida Kahlo and Diego de Rivero ended in a divorce.
He had an affair with her younger sister! But in they married again! Her progressed MC was conjunct Venus and Pluto and her progressed Moon conjunct progressed Venus and the solar return chart has Moon conjunct Sun all indicating love and marriage and Progressed Venus conjunct Moon.
Priscilla Presley's progressed Sun was square Jupiter and Elvis Presley's progressed Venus was conjunct his Moon when they met and fell in love. Progressed Venus conjunct Saturn and square Progressed Uranus. Camilla met Charles for the first time when her progressed Venus was conjunct her Saturn and square her progressed Uranus.
When Queen Victoria lost her husband Albert, progressed Venus was square her natal Mars and in the progressed chart Moon was square Midheaven. Divorces change lives, too.To see how your Composite have been moving thru the years before you knew each other and then how the planets lined up on the day you met.
IP: Logged. The tertiary progressed composite had ASC on 13 Aries conjunct tp Mars on 14 Aries still within one degreeand when we coincidentally bumped into each other some weeks later, the tp DESC was conjunct composite Pluto exact. However the one that I found most interesting, was when some years after that, out of the nowwhere he was approaching me during a show.
Just part of his show I suppose, but the astrology was quite interesting. Where's that, cupcake? I am not a fan of tertiary progressions, but I want to take a look.
I just happen to notice that especially the tertiary composites are VERY specific and a great tool for timing events, and also describing the nature of what is happening. It has never failed me once. I suppose you could even do it with a composite, though I have not tried it. But then again I have the luxury of being able to play around with it using my solar fire; it is not possible to do it just with astro.
However I do think that the composites are what specifically tells us what is up with the relationship as a whole, and not just each individual. People can experience the same moment in time, and yet it may not have anything to do with each other. However the composite in relation to the moment in time will always include both people and their connection to each other.
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I hope that was not to confusingly put now. Also the same aspect was apparent in the helio synastry of some of my friends. I have noticed quite a few astonishing links between two charts that way, but not sure if it has bearance as it mixes two different zodiacs.
I only did it twice. Include the name asteroid. Questionable, I am not sure if that works, other that a Transiting planet will activate them both at the same time. Aside from TR planet activating them both, I am not sue the two midpoints exchange any signals between each other. I've seen other astrologers do that, however.
In my experience telling even more than the composite chart alone. But I am still in researching mode, though it might still tilt to the questionable. Also for that feeling of fatedness not always the positive kind though. However, while I do not add anything to it just now, but I will trace patterns. Natal - synastry- composite.
And then reflected in the transits and progressions. And the more predominant, the more it is tied to angles - maybe it will only be a really strong pattern IF it is tied to angles in any way.Post a Comment. In this view above, we can see how far each planet has moved relative to the birth placements and what aspects are being formed between both versions of the composite.
This couple has their progressed moon at 26 degrees Gemini in their natal composite 8th house.
If they met a year ago, that means their progressed composite moon was at around 14 degrees Gemini in their natal 7th house of relationship entering their 8th house of change, sexuality, merging, etc.
You can see their natal relationship moon is at 2 degrees Aquarius in the 3rd house, yet connected by sign to the 4th house. The relationship is hungry for communication, but also maybe a home and family appetite. That means the first time their progressed moon entered this area of the chart 7th house of partnerswas at a very young age, still kids and perhaps not ready for the union.
But there is also other indications of what brought them together for the first time a year ago, but this would be a very long post if i explained every single detail. I mainly want to show you the importance of the technique i use for knowing what a relationship will be facing in the future. I do this by looking at the progressed composite moon. This is the most valuable tool for relationship prediction. Let's have a look at the progressed composite chart again.
Yep, this chart is the most telling in relationship astrology. This couple met and started a relationship when the progressed moon entered their progressed 7th house of partnership forming a "full moon" because of the progressed sun about to Rise opposite the moon. This is a rare phase that only happens for a few years every 30 years. This relationship full moon on the important axis of the 1st and 7th house is a very powerful aspect bringing the relationship consciousness and enlightenment about each-other.
This is the climax, the point of most tension that forces results. When these two people are together, they really shine bright for all to see. The current purpose of the union sun is to unite and bring focus to each other, while helping each other gain more consciousness. The moon, in 7th house of Gemini is hungry for a communicative,info rich, playful, variety filled relationship.It shows the energy of the two people in interaction.
How they present as an interaction. On astro. With progressions showing timing well, this can show critical periods in the interactions between two people. One thing to try is to set the date for the progression at specific big-event times for the relationship and see if you notice a trend. Too much to list, but I compared my composite chart with my late husband to our progressed composite when we met, married, moved, split, reunited, and his death.
Fast forward to his death heart failure after pushing my car on March 17, Progressed Composite:. Pluto on Descendant. Original composite Mars at 3 Pisces had progressed to 27 Pisces.
My current ex and I just went through a rough patch. Pluto is retrograde, and we have an 8th house stellium in Capricorn 5 slower moving planetsand this happened about a month ago as well and again this past week. The full Moon that occurred in Cap as well which may or may not of helped, but we also have 3 planets in Pisces and Neptune is conjunct Sun, Mercury and Mars, so lots of fog. Sucks, because we are so damn compatible. Lesson learned. Skip to primary content.
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